Tekken Tag Tournament Baek Doo San FAQ 3.0 (7/30/01) Written by columbo adoh@earthlink.net _________________________________________________________ Table of contents 1) Legal Issues 2) Introduction 3) Bio 4) Why Baek? 5) Conventions 6) Move List 7) Frame Data 8) Some Moves In Depth 9) Wave Dash 10) Strategies 11) Combos 12) Vs.Strategies 13) Contributions 14) Partner Suggestions 15) Credits 16) Version History _________________________________________________________ 1) Legal Issues You may not reproduce, sell, or distrubute this faq without my concent. You can however print this guide for your own personal use. Tekken, Tekken2, Tekken3, Tekken Tag Tournament are registered copyrights of Namco 1998, 1999, 2000. _________________________________________________________ 2) Introduction This is my first FAQ so i hope it's detailed and helpful. I have been playing with Baek for quite some time now, IMO he is good character to learn and master. The reason I decided to write this FAQ is due to the balant lack of information on Baek, so low and behold my knowledge of the Tae Kwon Do master himself. _______________________________________________________ 3) Bio Baek Doo San "Killing Hawk" Country of Origin: South Korea Fighting Style: Tae Kwon Do Age: 27 Height: 5'11 Weight: 154 lbs Blood Type: B Occupation: Martial Artist Hobby: Skydiving Likes: Memories of His Father Appearences: Tekken 2, Tekken Tag Tournament Baek's father was one of the foremost experts of Tae Kwon Do. During his childhood, he learnt the ways of this martial art and won many tournaments until an injury forced him to quit the sport. This lead Baek's family into terrible poverty and angered Baek. This rage towards his families dissention caused Baek to kill his father after a furious arguement. Grieving and full of remorse, Baek was taken into police custody where he spent most of his childhood. During this time, his Tae Kwon Do skills became legendary as he became totally focussed on his fighting prowess; wishing to honour his father. After 3 years, he fled the police home and took to the streets becoming a pit fighter of great strength and a firm audience favourite; striking his opponents again and again to see them reduced to a bloodied mess. Tracked by a secret organisation aware of his past, Baek was coaxed into the assassination of the owner of a property wanted by the group; a certain Marshall Law. Baek was only partly sucessful and enters the second tournament to finish his task and destroy Law! _______________________________________________________ 4) Why Baek? With over 30 characters to choose from, why should I choose Baek? For the most part, Baek has been greatly improved upon since his debut in Tekken 2. He's a much more well rounded character, he can mix up his punch attacks as well his as kicks now. Baek can be efficent on the offensive or defensive because of his long range and quick attacks. Strength: He's Evasive, he can easily go into Flamingo Stance and processes good side stepping tatics. He has a Class 1 Launcher from crouch dash, parries, good speed and power and long range. Weakness: He can become predictable, he doesn't take damage too well and some of his moves come out slow. No other real weakness that can be exploited. ________________________________________________________ 5) Conventions 1 - Left Punch 2 - Right Punch 3 - Left Kick 4 - Right Kick 5 - Tag f - forward d/f - down/forward b - backwards d/b - down/back d - down u/f - up/forward u - up u/b - up/back F - Hold forward D/F - Hold down/forward B - Hold back D/B - Hold down/back D - Hold down U/F - Hold up/forward U - Hold up U/B - Hold up/back N - neutral FC - full crouch animation WS while standing up WS - While Standing WR - While Running BK - Back facing the opponent SS - Sidestep (u,N or d,N) KD - Knockdown LINKING AND SPECIAL CONVENTIONS: + - Moves must be done together , - Perform right after the other ~ - Perform IMMEDIATELY after the other > - Slight delay after the '>' _ - Or (When used between two moves, they are interchangeable) # - Hold movement preceeding the '#' until end of string or until N [] - Brackets surrounding an item indicate an optional output () - Parenthesis indicates moves grouped together {} - Curved brackets indicate buttons needed to break a throw CH - Counter Hit (hit 1+2+3+4 to excute) EXTRA COMBO CONVENTIONS: WGF - Wind Godfist (f,N,d,d/f+2) EWGF - Electric Wind Godfist (f,N,d,D/F~2) TGF - Thunder Godfist (f,N,d,d/f+1) big - Can only be done on big characters cc - Crouch Cancel (tap u during crouch) iWS - Instant WS (d~d/b_d~d/f+button) (,) - The hit in parenthesis misses during the combo HIT LEVELS: l - hits low (block d/b) m - hits mid (block b) h - hits high (block b or duck) L - hits low and grounded opponents (block d/b) M - hits mid and grounded opponents (block b) H - hits high and grounded opponents (block b or duck) Sm - hits special mid (block d/b or b) ! -unblockable hit - unblockable hit which can be ducked {!} - unblockable hits grounded opponents *!* - unblockable hits big grounded opponents " - indicates block point in string hits _________________________________________________________ 6) Move List Here is the complete official movelist for Baek with commands, damage and hit levels in TTT, courtesy of Tekken Zaibatsu. If something is incorrect or if I have left out something, please E-mail me about it. THROWS: Input Position Move Name Damage Escape 1+3 Front Hammer Head 30 1 2+4 Front Blue Shark Claw 30 2 D/B+1+3 Front Swordfish Catch 30 1+2 f,f+2 Front Cobra Bite 30 2 F+2+3 [~5] Front Human Cannonball* 30 2 (1+3_2+4_2+5) [~5] Left Snake Revenge 40 1 (1+3_2+4_2+5) Right Hunting Serpent 40 2 (1+3_2+4_2+5) Back Starfish Throw 50 n/a Note: Human Cannonball is a special tag throw with Hwoarang only. Hwoarang finishes with a Neck Snapper. Total damage is 10,25. SPECIAL ATTACKS: Input Move Name Range 1,1 Twin Jabs' hh 1,2 Double Punch' hh * 3,[~f_~b] High Kick [Flamingo] h * 3,4<3 [~5] Launching Rocket [tag] hlm * 3,3,3,4 Butterfly Kicks hhmh * 3,3,3,d+4 Butterfly Needle hhml * 3,3,4<4<3 [~f_~b] Black Widow [Flamingo] hhhmh * 3,3,4<4<4,3 Silver Mantis hhhmhh b+1 Stealth Needle' m SS+1 Lace Hammer m 2,2 Mantis Backhand Spin' hh b+2 Bolt Cut' h f+2 Mantis Backhand' h U/F+2 Bone Stinger h f,N,d,d/f+3 [~5] Wing Blade [tag] m 3,4<3 [~5] Launching Rocket' [tag] JG 3,3,3,4 Butterfly Kicks' hhmh 3,3,3,d+4 Butterfly Needle' hhml 3,3,4<4<3 [~f_~b] Black Widow [Flamingo] hhhmh 3,3,4<4<4,3 Silver Mantis hhhmhh WS+3,3<4 Wave Needle hml WS+3,4<4,3 [~f_~b] Eliminator [Flamingo] hhmh WS+3,4<4<4,3 Hurricane hhmhh (WR_f,f,f)+3 Leaping Slash Kick m U/F,N Baek Hop n/a * 3,4 Trick Smash hh * 3,d+4<3 [~5] Starlight Blade [tag] hlm * 3,3,3,4 Butterfly Kicks hhmh * 3,3,3,d+4 Butterfly Needle hhml * 3,3,4<4<3 [~f_~b] Black Widow' [Flamingo] hhhmh * 3,3,4<4<4,3 Silver Mantis hhhmhh (FC_d)+3,3,d+3 Snake Creep' LLL (FC_d)+3,3,N+3 [~5] Snake Blade' [tag] LLm f,f+3 Hunting Axe m U/F+3,4,3 Hunting Hawk mmh U/F+3+4_3+4 [f_b] Flashing Halberd [FS] hh f,f+4 Hammer Heel M b+4 Heel Lance' m d/b+4 Heel Axe M 4<4 Tsunami Kick' hm f+4<3 [f_b] Heel Knife [Flamingo] mm f+4,4,3 Triple Threat mhh WS+4<4<3 [f_b] Albatross' [Flamingo] mmm WS+4<4<4,3 Flame Hawk' mmhh D/F+4~4<3 [f_b] Albatross' [Flamingo] mmm D/F+4~4<4,3 Flame Hawk' mmhh (FC_d)+4,3,3,3 [f_b] Baek Rush' [Flamingo] lmmm (FC_d)+4,3,3,d+3 Baek Needle' lmml b+3 Flamingo Stance n/a b+1+2 [~B] Punch Parry' [Flamingo] n/a D/B+3+4 [b,b] Heel Explosion' [cancel] ! FLAMINGO STANCE ARTS: Input Move Name Range f,f Flamingo Steppin n/a b,b Flamingo Back Dash n/a (u_d) Flamingo Side Step n/a 2~3 [~5] Human Cannonball [tag] throw b+3 Head Crusher m (D/B_d_d/f)+3 Maha Needle l 3,3,4 Flamingo Wave Needle mml 3,4,4,3 [f_b] Flamingo Eliminator [FS] mhmm 3,4,4,4,3 Flamingo Hurricane mhmhh Baek can cancel the Flamingo Stance into some of his regular moves. If you are looking to cancel into a Punch or Right Kick attacks you can just input the proper command. It gets a little trickier if you want to cancel into Left Kick attacks or Double Kick attacks. In order to do this you have to keep holding down Left Kick as you go into Flamingo. For the chart below lets assume you did F+1,2,3 to go into Flamingo and you are now holding Forward and Left Kick. Input Move Name Range 4,(release 3),4<3 [~5] Launching Rocket [tag] hlm 4,(rel. 3),3,3,4 Butterfly Kicks hhmh N+4 [f_b] Flashing Halberd [Flamingo] hh d+4,(rel. 3),3,d+3 Snake Creep LLL d+4,(rel. 3),3,N+3 [~5] Snake Blade [tag] LLm D/B+4 Heel Explosion {!} Note: * = New Move Added. Note: ' = This move can be done out of the Flamingo. Note: [Flamingo] = Going into Flamingo Stance cancels the last hit. Note: [tag] = Can be followed with a tag combo. STRINGS: Input Move Name Range 4,3,3,4,3,3,3,4,3,4 Tenstring#1 h"h"lmmm"hmlm 4,3,4,3,3,3,3,3,4,3 Tenstring#2 h"h"hl"mmm"lm{!} _________________________________________________________ 7) Frame Data A frame is an animation taking place during 1/60 of a second during a fight. Tekken Tag Tournament runs at 60 fps (frames per second) or 60Hz, which is in fact almost twice as fast as normal television (TV runs at 32 frames)! PAL TTT runs at 50 fps or 50Hz btw, which makes WD, CD, Crazy Legs, look weird. In TTT, attacks give you a certain frame advantage and disadvantage in certain situations. Most moves with a disadvantage of 8 or less can be considered safe moves as it takes at least 8 for your opponent to execute a standard jab and in some cases your opponent will not even be within jab range and you have to add on whatever amount of frames it take for him to dash within hitting range. Eddy has to ability to shorten recovery time after certain moves with Sidestep or Recover Crouching cancels. Each of the Frame Data List columns contain specific move information. F Hit Column: Indicates how many frames it takes for a move to hit after you have finished the command. This does NOT included the number of frames it takes to input the command. B Adv Column: The number of frame advantage or disadvantage when the move is blocked. Meaning the amount of frames it takes before you can input a new command. Positive numbers are advantages over your opponent, negative numbers indicate a disadvantage and KD indicates the opponent gets knocked down. This can either be a juggle, stun or any other kind of knockdown. H Adv Column: The number of frame advantage or disadvantage on a hit. Keep in mind a hit does not necessarily results in an advantage over the opponent. Frame advantage on stagger moves reflects the amount of stagger frames, this does not equal the number of frames your opponent cannot block attacks. CH Adv Column: The number of frame advantage or disadvantage on a Counter-Hit. Keep in mind a Counter-Hit does not necessarily results in an advantage over the opponent. THROWS: Input F Hit B Adv H Adv Ch Adv 1+3 12 x x x 2+4 12 x x x f,f+2 12 x x x d/b+1+3 12 x x x f+2+3 12 x x x SPECIAL ATTACKS: Input F Hit B Adv H Adv Ch Adv 1,1 10 x 0 +1 +9 +9 +10 +12 1,2 10 x 0 -2 +9 +11 +10 +9 *3,(f_b) x 0 +12 +10 *3,4<3 x x x -14 -10 -20 -3 0 KD -3 0 KD *3,3,3,4 x x x x -14 -14 -19 -14 -3 -3 -8 KD -3 -3 -8 KD *3,3,3,d+4 x x x x -14 -14 -19 -8 -3 -3 -8 +16 -3 -3 -8 +16 *3,3,4<4<3 x x x x x -14 -14 -6 -4 -14 -3 -3 +5 +7 -3 -3 -3 +5 +7 KD *3,3,4<4<3,(f_b) x x x x x -14 -14 -6 -4 -8 -3 -3 +5 +7 +3 -3 -3 +5 +7 +3 *3,3,4<4<4,3 x x x x x x -14 -14 -6 -4 -11 -2 -3 -3 +5 +7 -2 KD -3 -3 +5 +7 KD KD b+1 15 -7 +4 +6 SS+1 14 -7 +9 +9 2,2 10 x 0 -13 +9 -2 +9 -2 b+2 13 -7 +9 KD f+2 17 -13 -2 -2 U/F+2 26 +7 +6 +14 f,N,d,D/F+3 23 -20 KD KD 3,4<3 14 x x -14 -10 -20 -3 0 KD -3 0 KD 3,3,3,4 14 x x x -14 -14 -19 -14 -3 -3 -8 KD -3 -3 -8 KD 3,3,3,d+4 14 x x x -14 -14 -19 -8 -3 -3 -8 +16 -3 -3 -8 +16 3,3,4<4<3 14 x x x x -14 -14 -6 -4 -14 -3 -3 +5 +7 -3 -3 -3 +5 +7 KD 3,3,4<4<3,(f_b) 14 x x x x -14 -14 -6 -4 -8 -3 -3 +5 +7 +3 -3 -3 +5 +7 +3 3,3,4<4<4,3 14 x x x x x -14 -14 -6 -4 -11 -2 -3 -3 +5 +7 -2 KD -3 -3 +5 +7 KD KD WS+3,3<4 16 x x -16 -19 -8 0 -8 +16 +5 -8 +16 WS+3,4<4,3 16 x x x -16 -6 -4 -14 0 +5 +7 -3 +5 +5 +7 KD WS+3,4<4<4,3 16 x x x x -16 -6 -4 -11 -2 0 +5 +7 -2 KD +5 +5 +7 KD KD (WR_f,f,f)+3 22 +17 KD KD U/F,N x x x x *3,4 29 x -16 -13 KD KD KD KD *3,d+4<3 29 x x -16 -10 -20 KD 0 KD KD 0 KD *3,3,3,4 29 x x x -16 -14 -19 -14 KD -3 -8 KD KD -3 -8 KD *3,3,3,d+4 29 x x x -16 -14 -19 -8 KD -3 -8 +16 KD -3 -8 +16 *3,3,4<4<3 29 x x x x -16 -14 -6 -4 -14 KD -3 +5 +7 -3 KD -3 +5 +7 KD *3,3,4<4<3,(f_b) 29 x x x x -16 -14 -6 -4 -8 KD -3 +5 +7 +3 KD -3 +5 +7 +3 *3,3,4<4<4,3 29 x x x x x -16 -14 -6 -4 -11 -2 KD -3 +5 +7 -2 KD KD -3 +5 +7 KD KD (FC_d)+3,3,d+3 16 x x -14 -19 -17 -3 -9 -3 -3 -9 -3 (FC_d)+3,3,N+3 16 x x -14 -19 -15 -3 -9 KD -3 -9 KD u/f+3,4,3 28 x x -6 +7 x KD KD KD KD KD KD 3+4 16 x x -12 -13 KD -11 KD f,f+4 20 -19 KD KD b+4 16 -3 +11 +11 d/b+4 17 -2 +6 KD 4<4 11 x -4 -4 +7 +8 +28 +7 f+4<3 19 x -3 -14 +8 -3 +8 KD f+4,4,3 19 x x -3 -10 -2 +8 -1 KD +8 KD KD WS+4<4<3 11 x x -3 -15 -14 +8 -4 -3 +8 -4 KD WS+4<4<4,3 11 x x x -3 -15 -9 -2 +8 -4 -1 KD +8 +4 KD KD D/F+4~4<3 12 x x -4 -4 -14 +7 -4 -3 +7 +7 KD D/F+4~4<4,3 12 x x x -4 -4 -11 -2 +7 -4 -2 KD +7 +7 KD KD (FC_d)+4,3,3,3 12 x x x -8 -14 -20 -19 -3 -3 -20 -8 -3 -3 -20 -4 (FC_d)+4,3,3,d+3 12 x x x -8 -14 -20 -25 -3 -3 -20 -14 -3 -3 -20 -14 FLAMINGO ARTS: Input F Hit B Adv H Adv Ch Adv b+3 15 -10 0 0 (d/b_d_d/f)+3 11 -14 -3 -3 3,3,4 15 x x -14 -19 -8 -3 -8 +16 -3 -8 +16 3,4,4,3 15 x x x -14 -6 -4 -14 -3 +5 +7 -3 -3 +5 +7 KD 3,4,4,4,3 15 x x x x -14 -6 -4 -11 -2 -3 +5 +7 -2 KD -3 +5 +7 KD KD UNBLOCKABLE ATTACKS: Input F Hit B Adv H Adv Ch Adv D/B+3+4 61 x KD KD _______________________________________________________ 8) Some Moves In Depth What would a move list be without a explaination on how to use them? I'll give you the usefulness of Baek's most efficent moves and how effective they are. THROWS: Input Position Move Name Damage Escape 1+3 Front Hammer Head 30 1 2+4 Front Blue Shark Claw 30 2 Pretty average front throws, there are basically good for quick easy damage on wiffed moves. But not recommended on advanced players because these throws are easily escaped with 1 button. Input Position Move Name Damage Escape D/B+1+3 Front Swordfish Catch 30 1+2 One of Baek's better throws because not only does it look cool it requires 2 buttons to escape so it's safer to land. SPECIAL ATTACKS: Input Move Name Damage b+3 Flamingo Stance n/a Great evasive move, also has SSR property. Input Move Name Damage 1,1 Twin Jabs 5,8 Quick 2 hit jab combo, gives you a +9 frame advantage. Input Move Name Damage f,N,d,D/F+3~5 Wing Blade 25 Great launcher, works on big characters too. Safe move to throw out because it pushes your opponent back when blocked. Input Move Name Damage 3,4<3~5 Launching Rocket 15,8,25 Another decent launcher, sorta a varation of the Wing Blade. Input Move Name Damage b+1 Stealth Needle 17 A great move to use if your opponent likes to SS a lot. Has priority over most moves, and Baek SSR during this move. Input Move Name Damage U/F+3,4,3 Hunting Hawk 15,14,25 Very similar to Hwoarang's own Hunting Hawk. Use this if your opponent is too far to to be hit with anything else. Input Move Name Damage (FC_d)+4,3,3,3[~f_~b] Baek's Rush (10_7),10,15,25 This is a good okizeme move. Decent poke attack when you cancel it into FS. Input Move Name Damage f+4<3[~f_~b] Heel Knife 22,10 Decent move if your playing keep away, a little slow so don't use it in-close. Input Move Name Damage (FC_d)+3,3,d+3 Snake Creep 12,7,7 Good move for okizeme and mix up attacks since it hits LLL. _____________________________________________________ 9) Wave Dash Yes it's true, Baek can wave dash. Refined and perfected by the Koreans this technique is very effective if done properly, it's advantage is that you it gives you extra speed to pitbull and to put pressure on your opponent. For those who don't what I am referring to, a wavedash is basically a crouch dash cancelled into another crouch dash until it forms a fast movement of short crouch dashes. Wave dashing is also used in very high levels of tournament play. The wave dash goes as follows: f,N,d,df,f,N,f,N (repeat). Never WD just for the sake of closing in space between you and your opponent, most likely you'll get a foot in your face for your trouble. _________________________________________________________ 10) Strategies FLAMINGO STANCE: Keep in mind that the Flamingo Stance is very useful because you can quickly sidestep attacks with it. This move can get you out of alot of trouble, it's very evasive. Here are some moves that you can do when your in the Flamingo Stance. Eliminator Twin Jabs Butterfly Kicks Albatross Snake Creep FLAMINGO SIDESTEPS: Unfortunately Baek only has one Flamingo Stance (Left) so that means he can only double sidestep to the right. When you do b+3 you can do another SSR (Input d when facing right or u when facing left) and this leaves you with many options. b+4 b+1 b+2 D/F+1 d+1 f+1, D/F+2 F+[2]~3 FS 3,3,4 CHICKENING: If your facing a opponent who's a reverse scrub, learn how to chicken or you will be losing a lot of matches. If your new to Tekken, a chicken is the art of reversing a reverse. For example: if Baek throws a Right Punch (2) at Paul, he can reverse my attack (b+1+3), then I can reverse his reverse (f+2+4). This is all good on paper, but in reality unless you have tiger like relexes you won't be quick enough to chicken it. This is where chicken buffering comes into play, let's say when I press 2, I can hold 2 just incase my attack gets reversed. Then if it is reversed all I have to press is f+4. TAGGING: Tagging is the basic structure of TTT, at some point you must switch characters in order to survive (doh!). But there are diffirent ways to tag out. The first way to tag out is a tag throw. Normal tag throws are done with 2+5, but certain characters have special tag throws that are only done with a specific character. For example, Baek's Human Cannonball tag throw is only done with Hwoarang and vice versa. This is a good way to get your partner in without taking any damage. The second and most basic way to tag out is after you have been knocked down or juggled and your just getting up. Most players tend to use this method which can be risky, a deathfist, EWGF, or a nasty unblockable can leave your incoming partner with 30% life left. The third and final way to tag out is during a tag juggle. This is the most safe way to tag out, plus it looks cool and the damage on a tag juggle can't be recovered. _______________________________________________________ 11) Combos Here is the complete combo list for Baek, once again courtesy of Tekken Zaibatsu. If something is incorrect or if I have left out something, please E-mail me about it. STANDARD COMBO ARTS Starters: d/f+2_class 2 tag 1, d+3,3,N+3 1,2,(f+3h), 4,3,3,d+4 1, 4,4 1,2,(f+3), 1, d+4,3 1, 4,3,(3),4 1,2,(f+3), 1, f,N,d,D/F,f+4,4 1, d+1, WS+4,4 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3 d+1, WS+3.4 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3,N+3 d+1, WS+3,3,4 1,2,(f+3), 4,3,(3),4 D/F+1, 1, 3+4 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,1 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 4 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), b+2 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), d+3 1, 1,2,(f+3), 2,2 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/F+4 1, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), b+4 1, 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/B+4 1, 1, d+4,3,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 1, 1, 1,2,(f+3h), N+4 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 4,4 1, 1, 4,(3),4 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), N+4 1, 1, 1,2,(3),4 f+3,3,3,4 1, 1, 1, D/B+4 3+4, d+4,3,3 1, 1, 1, f+4 d+4,3,(3),3 1, 1, 1, 1,1 4, 3+4, d+4 1, 1, 1, 1, f,f+4 4, d+4,3,3 1, 1, 1, 1, 3+4 b+4, d+4,3,3 1,2, 1,2,(3),4 4,3,(3),4,3 1,2,(3),4,3 LAUNCHING ROCKET & SNAKE BLADE COMBO ARTS Starter: 1,2,3,4,3_3,4,3_d+3,3,N+3_class 2 tag b+1, d+4,3,(f+3), D/B+4 d/f+2, d+4 3,3,(4),4 4,(3),3,4,3,3 BUTTERFLY KICKS STUN COMBO ARTS Starter: 1,2,3,3,3,4_3,3,3,4_U/F,N+3,3,3,4 d+1, WS+3+4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), b+2 d+1, WS+3,4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1, f,N,d,D/F,f+4,4 d+1, WS+3,3,4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3 d+1, WS+4,4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 d+1, cc, 1, 3+4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,1 d+1, cc, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), d+3 d+1, cc, 1,2,(f+3h), N+4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/F+4 d+1, cc, 1,2,(f+3), 4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), b+4 d+1, cc, 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/B+4 d+1, cc, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(3),4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 D/F+1, d+3,3,N+3 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), 2,2 f,N,d,d/f+3 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 d+3,3,N+3 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3 3,4,3 D/F+1, 1, d+4,3,3 3,3,3,4 D/F+1, 1,2,(f+3h), N+4 d+4,3,3 D/F+1, 1, 1, D/B+4 D/B+4 D/F+1, 1, 1, f+4 f,f+4 D/F+1, 1, 1, 1,1 4,3,(3),4,3,3 D/F+1, 1, 1, 1, f,f+4 3+4 (big) D/F+1, 1, 1, 1, 3+4 COUNTER HIT COMBO ARTS WAVE NEEDLE COMBO ARTS Starter: Bold Cut: b+2 Starter: WS+3,3,4 d+3,3,N+3 U/F+3+4 D/B+4 d+4,3,3 f,f+4 HUNTING AXE COMBO ARTS Starter: f,f+3 d+3,3,N+3 f,f+4 d+4,3,3 D/B+4 SILVER MANTIS & HURRICANE COMBO ARTS Starter: 3,3,4,4,4,3_WS+3,4,4,4,3_d/f+4,4,4,3_Flamingo 3,4,4,4,3 1,2,(3),4 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/B+4 1,2,(f+3h), (4),4,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), N+4 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 4 1,2,(f+3), 4,4 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,2 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,1 f+3,(3),3,4 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), d+3 3+4, d+4,3,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/F+4 d+4,3,3 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), b+4 WING BLADE COMBO ARTS Starter: f,N,d,D/F+3_class 1 tag any Standard Combo b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 4 any Snake Blade Combo b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,2 u/f+3,4,3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(3),4 u/f+3,4, d+4,3,3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3h), (4),4,3 b+4, d+1, WS+4,4 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 b+4, 1,2,(3),4 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3 b+4, 1,2,(f+3h), (4),4,3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 4,4 b+4, 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,1 b+4, 1,2,(f+3), d+4,3,3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), d+3 b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 4,4 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/F+4 b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,1 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), b+4 b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), d+3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/B+4 b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/F+4 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), b+4 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), N+4 b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), D/B+4 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 4 b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), d+4,3 U/F,N+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3), 1,2 b+4, 1,2,(f+3), 1,2,(f+3h), N+4 BT 4, BT 4 CLASS 1 TAG COMBO ARTS CLASS 4 TAG COMBO ARTS Starter: view class 1 tag Starter: view class 4 tag any Wing Blade Combo d+3,3,N+3 D/B+4 d+4,3,3 f,f+4 JUGGLES: I am only going to list Baek's most effective juggles. Baek's isn't just about fancy juggles, without knowing how to set them up, they are useless. I've taken a few juggles from Catlord's TTT COMBO COMPENDIUM. D/F+2, d+1, FC+3,3,N+3 b+4, d+4,3,3 3+4, d+4,3,3 1,2,3~F, F+4,3,{3},d+4 1,2,3#~F, d+4,3,3 1,2,3,3,{3},d+4 1,2,3~f,D/F+1,3+4 1,2,3~f,1,cd~4,4,3~f,B/D+4 D/F+1, 1,2,f+3, f+1, f,N,d,D/F+4,4 f,N,d,D/F+3, b+4,d+3,3,N+3 f,f,BK 3,BK 4 3+4~F, d+3 3+4, d+4,3,3 f,f, BK 3, BK 4 1,2,3~f, 1,2, 3+4 f,f, BK 4, 4,4 u/f,N+3,3,{3},4 [3,4],3, 1,2,3~f,1,2,3~f,1,2,{3},4 3,3,[3],4 3,3,3,4 3,4,3 3+4, f,f, D/B+4 CD+3, b+1, d+4,F#+3,3,3,D/B+4 3,4<3, U/F+3+4, d+4,3,3 U/F+3+4, d+4,3,3,F#+3 [WS+3,3]4, U/F+3+4 CH b+1, D/F+3, b+4,3,4 CH D/F+1,2,1,2, D/F+3,1 TAG JUGGLES: cd+3,5,b+4,f+3,1,ff+4,d+4,ff+3 (Done with Baek and Hwoarang) INFINITES: Baek's infinites are basically Flamingo Stance cancelable strings repeated over and over. Remember don't abuse these infinites. F#1,2,3, 1,2,3, 1,2,3 (repeat). F#+1,2,3, d+4, F#+3,3,3, D/F+4,4,3 (repeat). _____________________________________________________ 12) Vs.Strategies I am not going to go through every character in TTT with great detail, just specific points you should know on how to win against a certain character. Alex/Roger: This should be a easy fight, Alex/Roger definitly one of the weaker characters in the game IMHO. Their moves do very little damage, they have limited range and they have trouble juggling but they do process A.King's staple moves except for the multi throws. The only thing you should worry about is his f,N,1, when blocked they have a +41 frame advantage and they can follow up with a Animal Godfist for 50% of damage (cheap). Angel/Devil: Definitly considered underrated when compared to the other Mishimas. Watch out for Twin Pistons, sidestep the laser and follow up with Wing Blade into a decent juggle. Also look out for the Devil Twister (SS+2), this is one of the best Class 1 Launchers in TTT. Other than that he's pretty easy to deal with since he's the most basic of the Mishimas in terms of attacks. Anna Williams: Definitely a hard fight, she has to be one of the most improved characters since Tekken 3. She has it all, reversals, quick recovery, parries, multi-throws, and a lot more, but she does have weak stamina. In-close she can be deadly so good spacing is the key to winning, use your long range to keep her at a distance, moves like Butterfly Kicks or Bone Stinger can be useful here. Armor King: IMO he is a hard challenge if played correctly, supplied with quick hitting moves and multi throws. His moves have a lot of priority from his crouch dash, but the only moves from his CD you should be concered about are his Shadow Rising Knee, Palm Upper and his Shadow Larait. His Palm Upper is a very good juggle starter so beware, even though A.King is lacking in the juggle department. Bruce Irvin: This can be a easy or a hard fight on your hands, if your facing a decent bruce player be prepared to be juggled. Most Bruce players usually go for the 3,2,1 into the Triple Knees Combo, or they can end the juggle with b+4,3,4 which takes a lot of damage. But Bruce does have his weaknesses, for starters he has a limited arsenal of moves and some of his moves comes out slow so you can easily sidestep around them. Bryan Fury: Byran received very few moves since Tekken 3 but he is still deadly when it comes to raw power. Look out for his Chains of Misery throw, it takes a lot of damage and it requires 1+2 to escape, but Byran's biggest weakness is his lack of low attacks. Nearly all of his attacks hit high or mid, with the exception of his regular low kicks, Muay Thai low kicks and his Snake Edge sweep. Eddy Gordo: Since most TTT Eddy players are button mashing idiots, expect a lot of Slippery Kicks mixed with Leg Whips and a throw every now and then. Against scrubs jump over their Slippery Kicks and catch them with any move of your desire :). If you actually come across a Eddy player who actually knows what their doing be prepared for the fight of your life, I don't have any information of how to fend off a good Eddy player (because I never fought one) Forrest Law: Law has been toned down since his debut in Tekken 3, his follow ups from his dragon stance are weakened now and his Fake Step doesn't have as many options as it did before. His poking game is still one of the best in TTT, he has a low parry, a mid parry and a universal low parry so he can counter almost all of your attacks. Since most Law players will be waiting for you to attack, confuse them and go for a flamingo throw to mess up their game or buffer a chicken. But Law's biggest disavantage is that he's predictable and he doesn't have any advanced tactics he can rely on (ex: CD, WD, SD, HaHa) so use that to your advantage. Ganryu: Probably the best improved character since Tekken 2, he has the power of the Jacks with the speed of the Changs. Ganryu has it all, damaging juggles, great okizeme attacks, good poking moves and a confusing hi low game. A expert Ganryu player can be a nightmare, he will overpower you if your not prepared. He also has a short shoulder tackle which can go under your moves and a punch reversal so WD or SS into flamingo stance and try and catch him with flamingo throws whenever possible. Gunjack: The best overall Jack in TTT, supplied great stanima GunJack has power moves as well as throws and is a decent juggler. Gun Jack's strength comes in his ability to mix-up high, mid and low hitting moves effectivly, his okizeme attacks and rising attacks are good as well. But his does has have a major disadvantage against you, he is very slow. Heihachi Mishima: Of all the Mishimas Heihachi is probably the most balanced in terms of power and moves. His hell sweeps have been toned down but is still damaging when used in combos. His WGF and Twin Pistons are a pain as well, his Deathfist is quick, the DGF can sneak under your attacks so look out for that. Not bad for a man who's in his golden years. Jack-2: More or less similar to Gunjack but he has his differences. Upgraded with some new sidestep moves but he lacks the low throw Gunjack has, he also has a lot of Gunjack's throws and juggles. His low game isn't as good as Gunjack's but he can set you up from his jab. Jin Kazama: Where do i start? Argubly the best character in TTT, Jin definitly has the advantage over everyone else. His EWGF is faster and easier to pull off than Heihachi, he can juggle the EWGF up to seven times in a row! also if his EWGF is blocked he has a +4 advantage. His Hell Sweeps can initate combos and can be a GUARANTEED knockdown at any range. But like everyone else Jin does have his flaws, Jin lacks low hit attacks and he has trouble fending off low attacks, so use Snake Creep or Snake Blade whenever there is an opening. Julia Chang: In the right hands she can be very annoying indeed, her regular standing 1 jab is the quickest in the game and it combos into the 1,1,2 and 1>1,1. Her D/F+4 is deadly because it has a ton of range and it can be chained directly into the Mountain Crusher. But Julia does lack a Class 1 Launcher, a decent juggle starter and good power hits. Jun Kazama: Jun is definitly a low tier character, Jun lacks just about everything. She has Pathetic stanima, limited juggles, horrible recovery on her moves and no damaging moves. But she does have a decent okizeme game and good custom strings but other than this fight is a breeze. King: This is a very hard match because King can reverse kicks and he can't be chickened when he reverses them, watch out for his unblockables (Jaguar Lariat, Moonsault) because he has no warning flash on the Jaguar Lariat and the Moonsault can be used as a surprise attack. King isn't all about multi-throws and slow strings, he has one of the best poking games in TTT, a good King player can comeback from a asskicking in a matter of seconds. Also King's multi-throws have at least 2 enders each which means you can't just know the escapes and automatically get out. Kuma/Panda: Kuma was considered a joke in Tekken 3 but with his new Hunting Stance and some powerful juggles to boot, Kuma is to be taken seriously. He has very good reach with his standing jabs, Kuma can also cause some confusion from his Hunting Stance although he doesn't use a lot of kicks. Remember you can't trade hits with Kuma because you will lose everytime, keep him at a distance and poke when he wiffs a move. Kunimitsu: She plays very similar to Yoshimitsu, but her attacks are slower and she doesn't take damage too well. Kunimitsu is a "hit and run" character with a lot of quick pokes and teleport moves. Remember Kunimitsu is only a treat when in-close so the best way to deal with her is to have a strong defensive game. Lei Wulong: The master of confusion and animal stances, if you ever face a Lei master he can make you make a multitude of mistakes through his stance changes and razor rush tatics. Recently discovered by the Koreans, is the HaHa Step, Fox Step, HoHo Step, all of which gives Lei incredible spacing. Don't be fooled by his Druken Master stance he can punch parry from it as well as in his other stances and he can switch to any of his animal stances through his razor rush. Lei by far is the deepest character in TTT, most Lei players only use a fraction of his large arsenal so except Rave Sweeps, Flying Ankle Kicks, and Lying Down attacks. Lee Chaolan: Lee finally receieved a complete movelist exclusive to him but he does shares a couple of moves with Law but keep in mind that he plays very differently from Law. First of all, Lee has some of the fastest kicks in TTT, his hitman stance can be difficult to deal with since he can throw a good number of attacks from it. His Blazing Kick is a very good juggle starter because it comes out and has a lot of priority. Michelle Chang: See Julia Chang. Mokujin/Tetsujin: Mokujin is a random select character, he has no exclusive moves and the only real difference between him and the character he's mimicking is that all of their limbs are now the length of his. For example, if he's mimicking any of the Jack's, his legs will be longer, but arms shorter to match Mokujin's physique. Also Mokujin never mimics Ogre, True Ogre or Unknown. When he tags in or out during a match he will automatically switch the character he is mimicking. Nina Williams: Definitly the weaker sister this time around, she has been raped so badly in TTT it's not even funny. For starters, her Devine Cannon has a -20 frame disadvantage, she has been toned down so much that she's almost in the same tier with Jun. Ogre/True Ogre: Most people think Orge is a just a combination of all the best moves in Tekken 2, this is true to an extent but Orge is very much his own character. His standing 4 has been set to a fixed damage rate now, he has a new rising attack and a good SS power shot. His kick strings have been tweaked as well he also has Kuma's bite as a attack reversal Ganryu's Buffalo Horn and a low Tail Sweep. His flying teleport can be used to escape some juggles, but he does have his weaknesses; Orge's size makes him a big target, yet he does move faster than the rest of the large characters. Paul Phoenix: If you happen to be playing a deathfist scrub, SS and hit him with anything you please. But if your playing a Paul expert he can give you a hard time. Phoenix smashers are rarely used by advanced Paul players, they instead utilize his pokes, his Falling Leaf and low sweeps. Fortunatly, Paul's age caught up with him, a lot of his moves come out slow and he is very predictable. Prototype Jack: See Gunjack or Jack2. Unknown: Same as Mokujin in many ways, she has the ability to mimic other fighters but she can't mimic large characters and she always starts off mimicking Jun. The only advantage she has over Mokujin is that she can change characters without having to tag in or out. Wang Jinrei: Wang is basically a mix of Julia/Michelle with some of his own moves. He has most of their pokes, unblockables and hi/low mix-ups. Play him as if you were playing the Changs, watch out for his Power Palm and Elbow Rush which can do decent damage on a CH. Yoshimitsu: Very little changes have been made to Yoshimitsu since Tekken 3, his 2 poking moves (left jab, right mid kick) have been slowed down to the point where they are easily countered or SS. But Yoshi has gained a couple of noteworthy moves in they're place, a swordtrust type move, headbutt out of the flea, and some new SS moves. Other than that he's just about the same as his previous Tekken incarnations. ____________________________________________________ 13) Contributions In this section I've asked some of the best Baek users across the states to share their tatics on winning with Baek. Telly Tel (www.phoenixsmasher.com) I always do cd~4,4,3. Very useful move for duckers because if this first hits then the rest is guarenteed, also you can flamingo cancel out of it making it more deadly also good for okizeme too. Always and I mean always abuse the flamingo b+3 its the main part of his game, what i do out of it is b+1 usually, but b+4, b+2, or f+2~3 works too but you wanna abuse that as much as possible also try to mix up throws cuz when you start getting them to duck you can use the cd~4,4,3 to hit your opponet. Also abuse d/f+2 (best juggle starter) only good reliable starter and very good priority off of d/f+2, 1,2,3f,1,cd~4,4, 3f,d/b+4 and also you can mix up the d/b+4 with the buffered snake kicks for people that get straight up or roll back another good juggle is d/f+2, 1,2,3f, d/f+1,3+4 very good too is his WD is like a mishima so if you can WD, use the WD mix ups with the throws and the cd~4,4,3 also get used to the move buffering it is very good for set ups for ex: 1,2,3 f you hold 3 press d+4 and release 3 and the begining of the snake kicks comes out, then from that you are in crouch many moves can come out from there. _____________________________________________________ 14) Partner Suggestions Hwoarang: This should be your #1 choice for a partner. First of all, they have great netsu when paired together, they also have more combos and tag moves together. The Human Canonball and Snake's Revenge are good tag throws and have decent damage. The only downside to this team is the lack of any punch attacks, but since their both so evasive that shouldn't really be a problem. _____________________________________________________ 15) Credits I would like to thank the following people and websites, because without them this FAQ wouldn't be possible. Castel and everyone at Tekken Zaibatsu (http://www.tekkenzaibatsu.com/) This is the ulitmate Tekken website in the world, if your just getting into Tekken or if you have been a OG at it this is the place to go, they have the krunkest movies and the latest Tekken information. Tekken Zone (http://www.tekkenzone.com/) If you wanna see some of the most amazing matches in Tekken check this site out. This site got me started working on my FAQ. GameFaqs (http://www.gamefaqs.com/) The most faqs on the planet, if you need a movelist or information on a certain game this is the place to go. They have every faq for nearly every game on every system. Electric Cancel (http://www.electriccancel.com) This is the place that really got me hooked on Tekken. Besides having some cool tournament vidz, this is also a great place to hang out and meet friends. Phoenix Smasher (http://www.phoenixsmasher.com) For having such a pimpish site, norcal players = are cool. NY still rocks though (eheh) Tekken Chick a.k.a WDing mistress For inspiring me to get off my lazy arse to finish this FAQ, without her I don't I would have the drive to finish this. So Thank you so much TC ^_^ I would also like to thank all the people who made a contribution to this FAQ, thank you all. Because without your help this FAQ wouldn't be complete. _____________________________________________________ 16) Version History Version 3.0 - This FAQ was released on 7/30/01. Streamlined the juggle sections, fleshed out the FAQ a bit more, minor spelling corrections, completed the Vs.Strategies. Version 2.0 - This FAQ was released on 7/24/01. Minor updates, spelling corrections, added tag juggles, finished the Strategies section. Version 1.0 - First version of this FAQ was released on 7/18/01. Did most of the basic work, everything is pretty much organized.